4WD CRX

Venomz · Feb 1, 2007

Heh, yeh, that's right.

The question is: Has anyone attempted or thought about using the 4WD transmission from the Wagovan and installing it on a CRX, being that they are based on the same Civic platform?

If you did, what problems did you run into, and if you did not, why did you not do it?

SETI20 · Feb 1, 2007

This should go on honda-tech.
But yes, it has been done a few times before.
And No. In the end it was not worth it.

Baker · Feb 1, 2007

SETI20 said:
And No. In the end it was not worth it.

Yup, the Honda AWD system is weak.
This conversion is a big Frankenstein of a train wreck, requires lots of fab work, time, money and patience.

Search H-T though, there's some info there.

Tiersin · Feb 1, 2007

I dont know much about it, but from what I herd, the 4WD system wasn't really supposed to handle too much power. Theres also a big loss of power through the gear box with it.

JustAnotherRex · Feb 1, 2007

Frankly, the above posters are entirely correct. AWD is not worth it at all. From my understanding only about 20% of the power is transferred to the rear wheels, I don't even know if you could put an LSD on it either (probably but eh).

The transfer case isn't designed for high horsepower application, so my understanding is you start breaking things easily over 200hp. Just over all a poor execution of a good idea unfortunately.

Venomz · Feb 1, 2007

Alright.

Just thought it was worth a question or two, dig?

Thanks for the info.

Neil · Feb 1, 2007

Wasn't there a guy that did the engine and tranny from a DSM with the AWD set-up? I remember seeing the 4g63 engine swapped in a rex, but don't recall if they did the AWD too.

stick · Feb 1, 2007

What about if you used a B-series AWD setup? Just brain storming here.

WarpFactorVIII · Feb 1, 2007

I was thinking along the lines of the AWD 4g63 swap or the CRV awd b series swap setup myself....the only real winner in my opinion would be the 4g63 swap manily because it would be able to hold the power and the aftermarket is huge for the DSM world..Plus I have yet to see a AWD CR-v dip into the 10's on a awd system :lol:

jfrolang · Feb 1, 2007

The CR-V's AWD system isn't designed for big power either. Have you ever driven behind a 97-01 CR-V? The rear transfer case and axles are in plain view, and they're tiny.

If you swap in a 4G63, prepare to be disowned by all Honda drivers.

The only way I see this as possible, is to build up a nice B-series, preferably a 1.8 or 2.0. The B16 doesn't really have enough down low to be lugging around an AWD setup. Use the CR-V trans, but it'll have to be beefed up to handle lots more stress, and possibly modified to always power the rear wheels. Then use Civic wagon trailing arms that will accept axles, and a rear end of your choice. I'd probably go with the DSM rear, because it's compact and won't need to be upgraded. Then finish it up with a custom driveshaft. Don't forget to put a fuel cell in the hatch, becuase you won't have room for a gas tank anymore.

In the end, I think it would be fun to say you have an AWD CRX, and 4-wheel burnouts always kick ass, but it's hardly practical.

Wasuri · Feb 1, 2007

I always had the dream in mind of a subby engine and awd setup. It would not only sound sick but function too.

jfrolang · Feb 1, 2007

Wasuri said:
I always had the dream in mind of a subby engine and awd setup. It would not only sound sick but function too.

Um, buy a Subaru? :lol:

Wasuri · Feb 1, 2007

jfrolang said:
Wasuri said:

I always had the dream in mind of a subby engine and awd setup. It would not only sound sick but function too.

Click to expand...

Um, buy a Subaru? :lol:

Then its not a crx body

jfrolang · Feb 1, 2007

See you didn't say anything about putting it in a CRX. :wink:

Krix · Feb 1, 2007

awd crx has been done...but you could go h22, with h2b adapter crv trans etc... :twisted: Now thats an original one of a kind swap right there :lol:

WarpFactorVIII · Feb 2, 2007

I remember seeing something about a AWD integra a few years back in honda tuning but I don't remember the details of it...all I remember is dirt spinning from all 4 tires...lol

Neil · Feb 2, 2007

jfrolang said:
The CR-V's AWD system isn't designed for big power either. Have you ever driven behind a 97-01 CR-V? The rear transfer case and axles are in plain view, and they're tiny.

If you swap in a 4G63, prepare to be disowned by all Honda drivers.

The only way I see this as possible, is to build up a nice B-series, preferably a 1.8 or 2.0. The B16 doesn't really have enough down low to be lugging around an AWD setup. Use the CR-V trans, but it'll have to be beefed up to handle lots more stress, and possibly modified to always power the rear wheels. Then use Civic wagon trailing arms that will accept axles, and a rear end of your choice. I'd probably go with the DSM rear, because it's compact and won't need to be upgraded. Then finish it up with a custom driveshaft. Don't forget to put a fuel cell in the hatch, becuase you won't have room for a gas tank anymore.

In the end, I think it would be fun to say you have an AWD CRX, and 4-wheel burnouts always kick [booya], but it's hardly practical.

You forgot to mention that you'd probably have to modify the floor pan somehow to accomodate the axle going to the rear. There isn't a whole lot of clearance under the ol' rex.

When in school, we did a Ford Probe that we fabbed a 351 into for drag racing. We had to fab a firewall, and the hump down the middle of the car, then the tubs and cage and what not. Once you start getting into projects like that, prepare to get full use out of your welder AND your checkbook!!

ollie · Feb 2, 2007

^^^ You said it brother!

Its like if you have the money almost anything is possible,but not always practical.

zerocool1014a · Feb 2, 2007

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1708933&page=1

there is one.. i have seen more and dont be like.. BUT ITS A DELSOL... its what honda wanted the 4th generation of the crx to be *shrugs*

signalpuke · Feb 2, 2007

jfrolang said:
If you swap in a 4G63, prepare to be disowned by all Honda drivers.

Only the haters, I would be inline for a swap kit...imagine 500 hp in a 2000lb chassis. I would do it to an EF sedan or wagon with a chopped roof and one piece rear side windows....sleeper....
There is a guy that did the 4G63 swap in a MightyMax, he is the same guy in the FF Drift video on youtube.com
I am all about putting big engines in lil cars, once I finish my crx I have to decide whether to keep the RB in my 240 or go 2JZ :twisted:

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