Chassis modification
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I have looked at an interesting idea for a crx. and my first question regarding it is this. Does the DOHC (b16b) engine in american integras match up to the tranny in american crx's?? If so i had a great idea to modify a crx. As i was wandering through a local parts yard, i found an old AWD civic. looking inside it had the little 1.5l engine found in the crx/civics and thinking that if the b16b can bolt up to the 1.5's FWD tranny. why not the 1.5's AWD tranny. then its a matter of getting the components for the rear off of a scrapped AWD and having a custom driveline made to fit the correct distance, along with maybe a little moving of metal to fit it along the exhaust like in the AWD civic. if this could work, then i see the possibility of an amazing track car in the form of a tuned B16B AWD CRX. if anyone knows how well this would work, if it would, or if anyone has tried this, id like to know. cause its always come to me, that this is a very possable way of really beefing up a crx. and it really wouldnt take too much work from what i know of civics and crx's. (done an engine swap and a few repairs on 88-91 civics and crx's, and crx's are very similar as far as components go.) well any input would be great. sorry for the long post.
note: im aware that there would be a lot of wiring differences to work out, i was just curious about how the mechanical part of it would work.
Also if i dont want to worry about changing electronic stuff, i can always jsut keep the stock engine in the crx as it will be the 1.5 or 1.6 and should bolt up anyway. (when i go searching for one i wanna get a Si, but that wont be for a little bit)
note: im aware that there would be a lot of wiring differences to work out, i was just curious about how the mechanical part of it would work.
Also if i dont want to worry about changing electronic stuff, i can always jsut keep the stock engine in the crx as it will be the 1.5 or 1.6 and should bolt up anyway. (when i go searching for one i wanna get a Si, but that wont be for a little bit)
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The b series engines do not bolt up to the d series transmissions. . .
Look under the how to section of this site there is an excellent article on swapping the b series engine into the crx where a d series once sat/ / /
basically you need engine trans, conversion mounts, axles and shift linkage and ecu. . .
Look under the how to section of this site there is an excellent article on swapping the b series engine into the crx where a d series once sat/ / /
basically you need engine trans, conversion mounts, axles and shift linkage and ecu. . .
hmm.. maybe what i could do is find a running AWD one, and take both the engine and AWD tranny and drop it in the crx. and bolt up the crx intake exhaust to it. im sure i can find a way to make my dream a reality. i just have to look into it a little more.
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well the civic wagovan (awd) and crx have a very different wheelbase. parts wont line up exactly. the rear drive shaft will be too long also. Even though its awd its not a very good one. very little power is transfered to the rear wheels and the drivetrain wont handle the power needed to make it really cool.
The CRV uses a b-series engine and an awd drivetrain as well but its not a good idea. Honda tuning did such a swap into an Integra and there were alot of problems with it. I think they've just scrapped the project.
The effort isnt worth the payoff in my opinion.....that coming from a guy thats going to shoehorn a H22 into my crx.
The CRV uses a b-series engine and an awd drivetrain as well but its not a good idea. Honda tuning did such a swap into an Integra and there were alot of problems with it. I think they've just scrapped the project.
The effort isnt worth the payoff in my opinion.....that coming from a guy thats going to shoehorn a H22 into my crx.
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I do believe this has been done before by some guy off the resource years ago.
He did it,but it really wasnt what he thought and it was ALOT of work!
When I say alot I mean lots-o-fabbing and cutting and such.
I'm not trying to burst your bubble,but anything is possible with time and ALOT of $$$.
He did it,but it really wasnt what he thought and it was ALOT of work!
When I say alot I mean lots-o-fabbing and cutting and such.
I'm not trying to burst your bubble,but anything is possible with time and ALOT of $$$.
youd have to make a driveshaft tunnel, a place for the rear differential, custom driveshaft, suspension and axles are liable to be totally different.
itd be very cool if you did it just for the hell of it..but i dont think the older civic AWD drivetrain could take much abuse. ive heard of people using the CRV setup in other projects.
crx's are already awesome track cars, look at all the SCCA ones and of course the J's Racing time attack rex.
itd be very cool if you did it just for the hell of it..but i dont think the older civic AWD drivetrain could take much abuse. ive heard of people using the CRV setup in other projects.
crx's are already awesome track cars, look at all the SCCA ones and of course the J's Racing time attack rex.
thanks for the input. it really was just an idea out of many different projects i hope to try some day. and from the get go seemed like the cheapest because it just looks possible from examining crx's and the awd civics. and because there are over a dozen parts yards within a 30 mile area around where i live making parts kinda easy to find and cheap to get. i was aware some metal moving was in order to fit the driveshaft, and that the crx is shorter than the awd wagon, so a custom made driveline would be in order. and probly the most expensive part in all of it. i wish i knew someone who had done it or tried and see how that went. i kinda put aside the fact though that there must have been a reason they stopped making the awd civic (its obvious it wasnt that good, or they probably woulda kept the idea.) i wish they had awd crx's from the factory... that woulda been awesome.
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