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I'm going to have to look like a stereotypical uneducated American here, but I think a quick history lesson is in order. Was New York once under Dutch control?

Some of those proposed changes I agree with, but others just make no sense. What's the appeal of canals?

BTW, the thread title reminded me of the Hoobastank song by the same name, so I put it on and now it's stuck in my head. :cry:
 

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It's just a parody, about how we (dutch people) are rediculed for bing such a small nation, and how we never accomplish anything.

So FINE! If we suck that bad, just give us back New Amsterdam.

From the top of my head; NY was founded by Peter Stuiyvessant as a trade colony. We later traded it away. Probably for some mirrors and beads.
 

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Wikipedia said:
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Main article: History of New York City

The region was inhabited by the Lenape Native Americans at the time of its European discovery by Italian Giovanni da Verrazzano. Although Verrazano sailed into New York Harbor, he is not thought to have traveled further than the present site of the bridge that bears his name, and instead sailed back into the Atlantic. It was not until the voyage of Henry Hudson, an Englishman who worked for the Dutch East India Company, that the area was mapped. He discovered Manhattan on September 11, 1609, and continued up the river that bears his name, the Hudson River, until he arrived at the site where New York State's capital city, Albany, now stands. The Dutch established New Amsterdam in 1613, which was granted self-government in 1652 under Peter Stuyvesant. The British took the city in September 1664, and renamed it "New York" after the English Duke of York and Albany. The Dutch briefly regained it in August 1673, renaming the city "New Orange," but ceded it permanently in November 1674.

New York's colonial heritage was arguably unique in British North America at the time of the Revolution, since New York was the one metropolitan city of note which started as a non-British colony of Dutch heritage. This heritage was reflected in city's heavy focus on trade, commerce, guild, and civic life which was the hallmark of other Dutch cities. Although by the time of the Revolution, with nearly 80% of it's population of English origin, New York City was virtually uniform as a typical British community, it's Dutch commercial inheritance was crucial in making New York the most important city in North America in the 19th Century once the Erie Canal was built.
I was close enough...
 

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The best DJ's are from there. I hope to live there for at least a small portion of my life.

It's just a parody, about how we (dutch people) are rediculed for bing such a small nation, and how we never accomplish anything.
Thats just silly.
 
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