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He looks stoned.

There was a parent that called the local police yesterday after a 15 year old boy was thought to have a gun and a hit list. What a surprise that there would be people trying to copy and other people being very cautious.
 

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Hackenburg has a New Jersey firearms permit. However, the assault rifles are illegal in New York and illegal to possess on campus.

"I can't tell you anything about intent or what his mindset was or anything like that all. All I know is he possessed assault weapons in New York state that violate the law and he also possessed them on a campus,"
Can you really blame them? Gun hobbyist or not, he's a dumbass for breaking the law especially with what has transpired. Not saying he was going to do something or even knew he was breaking the law, but what would that hotel employee (or anyone else that saw the guns) feel like if something did happen? Nowadays, I wouldn't take the chance either.
 

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Its me DUB said:
Can you really blame them? Gun hobbyist or not, he's a dumbass for breaking the law especially with what has transpired. Not saying he was going to do something or even knew he was breaking the law, but what would that hotel employee (or anyone else that saw the guns) feel like if something did happen? Nowadays, I wouldn't take the chance either.
I am not arguing the legality of it all, or his lack of judgement, just the fact that a story happens( VA. Tech) and the media jumps all over EVERYTHING having to do with it.

We are the herded, controlled by mass media. I understand that what happend is absolutly horrible, but we tend to lose focus on everything else in the world and focus and exploit one event.
 

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baker423 said:
We are the herded, controlled by mass media. I understand that what happend is absolutly horrible, but we tend to lose focus on everything else in the world and focus and exploit one event.
Thank you... that's the damn truth!
 

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the guy made a dumb mistake and now it's going to cost him big tme. Something similar happened at my highschool this fall. A kid from my class accidently left his muzzleloader in his truck one day and drove to school the next morning forgetting that he had it in his truck. (it was muzzleloading season for deer in Ohio at the time) And that day we had a lock down which is when the police comes and checks everyones cars for drugs and such, so they found his rifles. Now the honer roll student who played varsity football and wrestling is expelled. Because of this his chances at a good college are seriously hurtin'. Dumb mistakes can really screw you over when people wanna make an example out of you.
 

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baker423 said:
I am not arguing the legality of it all, or his lack of judgement, just the fact that a story happens( VA. Tech) and the media jumps all over EVERYTHING having to do with it.

We are the herded, controlled by mass media. I understand that what happend is absolutly horrible, but we tend to lose focus on everything else in the world and focus and exploit one event.
Amen. On the bright side, at least stories like this will replace the next breaking news on what exactly went wrong with Ana Nicole Smith :rolleyes1:
 

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On the bright side, at least stories like this will replace the next breaking news on what exactly went wrong with Ana Nicole Smith :rolleyes1:
Pretty lame that the 3 biggest stories on the news in the past 2 months or so have been...Anna Nicole, Don Imus now Va. Tech.
:?
 

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the guy made a dumb mistake and now it's going to cost him big tme. Something similar happened at my highschool this fall. A kid from my class accidently left his muzzleloader in his truck one day and drove to school the next morning forgetting that he had it in his truck. (it was muzzleloading season for deer in Ohio at the time) And that day we had a lock down which is when the police comes and checks everyones cars for drugs and such, so they found his rifles. Now the honer roll student who played varsity football and wrestling is expelled. Because of this his chances at a good college are seriously hurtin'. Dumb mistakes can really screw you over when people wanna make an example out of you.
How can they check your cars? Don't they need a warrant for that?
 

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How can they check your cars? Don't they need a warrant for that?
probbaly not, im sure they concsent to it when they get a parking pass to the school or something. my school had a simlair thing, if you got a parking pass you consented to the search, sort of like how they can search your locker.

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HackAbuse said:
How can they check your cars? Don't they need a warrant for that?
probbaly not, im sure they concsent to it when they get a parking pass to the school or something. my school had a simlair thing, if you got a parking pass you consented to the search, sort of like how they can search your locker.

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How would they get in the car though?
 

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HackAbuse said:
mattminerDOTcom said:
HackAbuse said:
How can they check your cars? Don't they need a warrant for that?
probbaly not, im sure they concsent to it when they get a parking pass to the school or something. my school had a simlair thing, if you got a parking pass you consented to the search, sort of like how they can search your locker.

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How would they get in the car though?
The owner/driver of the vehicle must open it.
When it comes to school grounds, in the eyes of the law, privacy is not expected. Your vehicle is parked on school grounds, once you set foot on the property, you open yourself up pretty much.
It really is the same as entering a State or Federal building.
 

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people are quick to blame guns and not the people shooting them. lots of people used to own and have guns on their persons. kids used to play with them. shootings like what have happened over the last 20 years never happened. what's wrong here?
 

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baker423 said:
We are the herded, controlled by mass media. I understand that what happend is absolutly horrible, but we tend to lose focus on everything else in the world and focus and exploit one event.
I Couldn't agree more. They pull EVERYTHING out of context, downplay the important parts to make the news fit their agenda.

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yup no warrent needed........althought they usually use dogs to detect drugs, it's not about weapons so much. He just had his gun case sitting on his seat and the K9 officer noticed it while the dog was sniffing around. so he had a cop go get the student so they could check the case and sure enough, there was a gun in it so he got arrested on the spot. Charges and all were dropped but he was expelled and now has to repeat his senior year.
 

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Its me DUB said:
Hackenburg has a New Jersey firearms permit. However, the assault rifles are illegal in New York and illegal to possess on campus.

"I can't tell you anything about intent or what his mindset was or anything like that all. All I know is he possessed assault weapons in New York state that violate the law and he also possessed them on a campus,"
Can you really blame them? Gun hobbyist or not, he's a dumbass for breaking the law especially with what has transpired. Not saying he was going to do something or even knew he was breaking the law, but what would that hotel employee (or anyone else that saw the guns) feel like if something did happen? Nowadays, I wouldn't take the chance either.
I thought it was quite clear to not bring weapons of any sort on campus. I needed a gun for a film shoot prop... I could have lost housing rights just for that.

Also, I think being caught with illegal fire arms is considered probably cause to search what ever authorities feel is needed.
 
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