[FooFighter]

I was looking around on ebay and found a CRX.
It looks like a CRX but it's listed like this "1989 HONDA CIVIC 1500 CRX SI"
Is that a real model?
Maybe im just crazy but it seems kinda weird...
Anyways the auction is here so tell me what you think about it...
Like not about how ugly the paint/body kit is but about if you think the car is legit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... Track=true

 

[jfrolang]

Technically every CRX is a Civic. The owner's manual even says Civic in large letters.

There never was a "CRX 1500 Si" though. It's tough to say what this car is, the VIN is for an Si, and it has Si door panels. But there is no sunroof or rear wiper, so on that account I'd say it's an HF. The steering wheel looks like an HF's also, in the picture of the roof. There are no good interior pics and there is no engine bay pic, so I can't say for sure. This car looks suspicious to me, it may have been VIN-swapped.

 

[jfrolang]

I also just noticed the seller is listing A LOT of options that it simply does not have.

Anti-lock brakes, cruise control, driver's side air bags, heated leather power seats with memory, power steering, power windows and locks, rear air-conditioning, side airbags, sunroof, tow package... :shock: seriously wtf!?

This guy's being completely dishonest about the features and also about the condition. No car from 1989 is going to be "excellent" in all categories. Plus he says he needs to sell quickly, and there doesn't appear to be any HVAC controls or radio. He doesn't seem knowledgeable about the car at all, except that it's his 'dream car.'

And his feedback is only 1. I looked into that, and it came from an auction for a mercury tracer from 2000 miles away, with no picture and no description. The buyer of that auction has a feedback of 2, one from this guy and another person that's no longer registered, again in an auction with no pictures or description. In other words, his feedback network is completely closed and very likely fictionalized.

I also doubt the listed mileage of 56k miles, but that's like the whipped cream on top of the sundae by now. I expect this is a scam, and I'm going to report it to ebay.

 

[babyblucrx]

sounds like you really did you research jfrolang. good call, Id say it's b.s. It's people like that on ebay that make me cautious about buying anything over 100 on ebay.

 

[C1R6X]

What the 1500 more than likely stands for is a 1.5 liter motor, whiich would also support the hf statement. Mine is an si without a sunroof, but that is because a hard top replaced the moonroof. Do your research before buying anything off of there.

Bryan

 

[Tiersin]

There was another one on ebay a few months back that was really suspicious. Maybe this car was stolen. It definatly fits the profile of a "looked for" car. As for all the fake accessories, i think that may be a copy and paist. Where a know nothing buyer copies another add(in this case a dealerships) but dosnt know how to edit any of it.

 

[ryan_long_01]

i doubt if it's a scam, the guy is just a total idiot. On eBay, a lot of people put things in the title that have nothing to do with the item just to match people's search terms -- just look at the JDM-everything...that's probably what's up with the "Si". 1500 is a 1500cc engine, aka a 1.5L (1000 cc = 1L). He's also the kind of moron that just selects all the options and puts them in the description instead of figuring out which ones the car actually has -- side curtain air bags? C'mon.

In any case, there are no engine or interior shots (which means neither one is worth showing), the guy is an idiot, the car itself is hideously ugly and I'm sure an underpowered HF or DX. Claiming every single facet of the car is in "excellent" condition is retarded as well. Why anyone would put an expensive (although terrible looking) bodykit and paint job along with lambo doors on a sub-100HP stock-engined DX or HF is beyond me, and this auction is just typical eBay crap that you should run, not walk, away from. This auction is one that you glance at, laugh, and then hit the "back" button and continue your search for a decent CRX (one that hasn't been totally ruined like this POS) from an honest seller.

 

[Tiersin]

amen

 

[jfrolang]

Of course 1500 indicates 1.5L. Was anybody thinking any different?

You raise good points ryan, but there are two things specifically that make me believe this is a scam. First, the VIN is for an Si, but this car is clearly not an Si.

Second, the only other thing this guy sold was a Mercury Tracer in Lancaster, PA. This CRX is in Colorado. The auction for the Tracer had no pictures or description. Who would buy that? Apparently one guy bid on it, and he also bought a Subaru SVX, again with no pictures or description. The seller of the SVX is no longer registered and that was his only sale. His feedback network is very small and closed, and it bears no hints of authenticity. It looks to me like it was cobbled together quickly.

 

[88DXCRX]

I can tell you from insuring,inspecting and
even running a carfax on my '88 Si that this is just
a very common bit of mis-information..

State inspection reports state that My DX is 1600cc
And that the Si is 1500cc even though it should be vice-versa..

CARFAX reports it to be '1988 HONDA CIVIC 1500 SI'
PROGRESSIVE reports it to be 'CIVIC 1500 Crx Si'
State of Texas Emissions testing reports it to be '1500 cc'..

So,they are all wrong but I am not going to bother to tell them.. :?

 

[ryan_long_01]

Maybe he got the eBay title from the Carfax description, which is incorrect as mentioned above. Most people wouldn't decide to put "1500" or "1600" in the description of the car, it's just an odd way of describing a CRX -- but if that's the format that Carfax uses, it wouldn't surprise me if that's where it came from (and why there's a discrepancy).

On further inspection, though, jfrolang, you're very correct about the number of people with 1 or 2 feedback giving each other positives...although I don't know why they bother, 1 is no better than 0 for me if I'm buying a CAR.

 

[Kwicko]

Minor clarification:

There WERE CRX 1500 Si models... it's just that they were first-generation CRXs, available in '85, '86, and '87.

I'm with 88CRXDX on this one. I recently had to put my '91 CRX DX through the new state emissions test, and when the tester entered the car's VIN, it came up as a 4CYL 1600 engine. Lucky for me, my DX really DOES have a 4-cylinder 1600 engine - but only because I did an MPFI swap and dropped in a D16A6 1.6 liter Si engine. It *should* have come up as a 1500, but apparently the state's database ain't all it's cracked up to be.

As an aside, my car passed the smog test with flying colors. The particulate emissions listed a "standard" maximum level of 220; I pulled a high reading of 41, and an idle reading of 30. The CO2 readings were listed with a standard max of 12%; I pulled a max of 1.1%. So apparently my 15-year-old car, with it's 17-year-old ('89 Si) engine with 220,000 miles on it is still burning pretty darn clean.

And to think, I was worried about whether it would pass...

Mike

 

[Dodo]

The car was red at one point in time. you can tell because the hatch is missing the moldings. No radio, the car is not for me.