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So today was one of those nothing-can-go-right days, more like an everything-must-go-horribly-wrong.
To start off, I had to drive out to Troy from NH, just under 200 miles, I was going to stay there, until later after I got there I realized all the stuff I needed, including a clean towel, was in the back of my sister's car (I'm in a new apartment without anything I need). Anyway, so it was around 95 and humid, and even with the band-aid tune that matt did for me (which had been running like a champ so far!), it was hard to keep the motor from pinging. Let me tell you, it was a very slow, HF-ish drive to NY.
So about halfway there, in Brattleboro, VT, I had to stop for fuel, the Mobil right off the roundabout for those of you who know the area. I pull in off the road, behind a huge ford F250. I couldn't get all the way into the lot, there was a line for the pump. Motorcycle week in NH just ended (Laconia, HUGE rally, different rant), and there was a lot of traffic at all the stations. So I just about come to a stop 4 or 5 feet behind this montrosity, and then I see reverse lights. Panic! I lay on the horn, and then I hear the crunch of a steel trailer hitch going through my fender and lights. Still on the horn, in shock, I yell "WHAT THE [expletive]!". So I get out of my car, and the guy gets out of the truck, he has 2 kids and his wife in there. He yells at me, "watch your language ***hole, I have kids in the back!" Great role model.
So we pull over to the side, I get out to take a look, all shaky, this is my first accident ever. So I don't know what to do, I walk around, and my corner light is inside the engine bay, some inside the trailer hitch, the fender is all bent up, bumper is gouged, popping out, and hanging low on that side, and the hood won't open right. Perfect. So the guy looks at it for about 10 seconds, and says "how do you want to do this, I'll give you 100 cash and call it even?" Yeah right man, 100 bucks. So I say I want to wait for the police to come, and he says, it's a Honda, how much is it worth? So around this time, 2 guys show up who know him, one helps us open the hood, the other starts yelling at me that I was too close, so I basically ignore him, try to stay cool, try to open the hood. The hood opens, and the first friend just about needs a change of pants when he sees the pristine engine bay (I'll get some pics up of that, simple green+toothbrush+pressure washer) that I just cleaned yesterday, with a fresh VTEC valve cover and everything. He turns to the guy who hit me and says, "you're effed". So meanwhile the other guy keeps telling me I was too close, so I loose my cool, turn around and tell him to shut up, in a few more words. I say, I was not moving, he was BACKING UP, without looking. So I go into the station and call the police... they came about an hour later.
While I'm waiting for the cops to come, more people that know the guy keepjust showing up, it's a small town and they see his truck so they stop, whatever. They all keep telling me just take the cash, the cops aren't going to help, whatever. There were a couple that were trying to be really intimidating, and then they start walking around my car with a camera, snapping pics of everything, even like the rear suspension, so I asked them to go away. At this point I'm nervous as hell, chain smoking like a maniac, and sweating to boot. Finally, my stepdad, roommate, and my sister show up, they were coming about a half hour behind me. So I go tell them what happened, chill out a little until the cops come.
So every time any police car drives by, the friends are like half in their cars, some left, more came, whatever... until the town cop is coming around the roundabout, then all but the guy who I yelled at stays. We get a police report, and the guy insists on being a witness, and then when he asks him where he was, he was on the OTHER SIDE of the roundabout! So I give the cop my information, and tell him this whole thing. I made a point to tell him that this guy was trying to settle for cash, and I just wanted to make sure he got my whole story since all the other witnesses were friends of the guy driving the truck.
So then I had to drive to NY, discover my stuff was on it's way back to NH, get locked out of my apartment with no shirt or shoes, and eventually drive back to NH, missing a moose in Vermont by mere inches, I actually pulled over and had to wait because I was so shaky.
What a great day.

But there's good news.
I've been planning on getting a new CRX or at least a new shell, since my interior is good, the mechanical stuff is all good, but the body is crap. So When I got to troy I got the CRX up on the lift at the shop, inspected it carefully. Aside from the hood (Already bad anwyay), lights, bumper, and fender, the crumple zone thing looks like it's starting to fold. I'm hoping it's enough to total the car when I take it for an estimate. If it is, I'll be able to buy it back, keep all my parts, and get a clean shell sooner than I thought to transfer everything to. Unfortunately, unless this all happens in the next 4 days, I'll have to wait until I get back from New Haven. Either way though, I'm trying to look at the bright side... and after all the bad luck with this car I think I can handle a Y49... so pretty...
 

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Thanks man, I don't think there's any way I can be at fault so I should be all set... now I just have to make sure the body shop runs up a nice bill (I should have them look at the rest of the car!).

I should add, Matt pulled through again for me, and is trying to hook me up with a fender and some lights so I can go see my girl in Toronto this weekend still!
 

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Heh... A lady backed into the driver's door of my last 'rex in Putney, VT - that's only 5-10 miles north of Brattleboro. I had been in town for a grand total of about a week and a half as I recall. It was also an obvious instance of the driver simply not looking behind her before backing up. Maybe it's a local phenomenon? i.e. the locals can't drive?
 

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That totally sucks! Hopefully the cop wasn't a friend of the guy too, or else you MAY be found at fault. I hope you do come out ahead with a new shell though. That might make it worth the crappy day.
 

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That sucks man, I dread this kind of thing every day. I always get people in front of me in a drive through or whatever who will use reverse to back up a tad for one reason or another, and then (in an automatic) leave the frigging thing in reverse while they place their order or whatever -- long enough for them to forget what gear they are in. Two or three times I've had that happen lately, telling the person with me to watch as the driver stabs the gas and almost craps himself as the car takes off in exactly the opposite direction that he expects. I've totally stopped assuming that people are looking as they back up, because they probably aren't. If I see reverse lights, I'm trying my damndest to get out of the way and/or laying on the horn to alert the mouth-breather of my presence.

$100 cash...I would have stopped talking to that a-hole right there (after I got done laughing at him and informing him that his insurance company would be cutting me a check for FAR more than that) and gone and sat in my car. There's nothing to be gained from talking about the wreck to a bunch of people before the cops show up, I'd just quietly wait them out.

You best not get cocky and think you could handle a Y-49, though...with all the nervous shaking and chain smoking and having to pull to the side of the road to calm down you dealt with today, you'd end up in an INSTITUTION if you owned a Y-49. My old Y-49 was hit by SUVs twice...while parked in a well-lit parking lot...once crushing a fender, and once a quarter panel (the GOOD quarter panel, not the one with rust on it). You ALMOST hit a moose, I once crested a hill and was immediately greeted by a dead deer lying across my whole lane. With no time to react and no place to go, I simply hit the deer, which acted as a "Dukes of Hazzard"-style ramp...my Barbados Yellow car went airborne, and I swear I remember seeing my tach zing upward, just like in the movies, as my tires left the roadway...apparently in all the commotion, I didn't even have time to bother taking my foot off the gas. All in all, that's a great and exciting way to fold part of a stock Si front lip under. There were a million other things that went wrong through no fault of mine on that car, culminating with an uninsured Suburban getting totally sideways in front of me in the snow, forcing me into the median to avoid hitting him. The only stretch of median on that whole interstate with TREES in it, I might add. The Y-49 curse is much stronger than you give it credit for, dude...trust me :)
 

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Well I would love a Y49, but since I'm in the northeast, and I want an Si, I'll probably be taking what I can find for a clean shell (except white!). I really love the look of a yellow CRX with black/CF hood, roof, and hatch... so yellow sides and black top/trim. I think it's one of the few cars that actually looks good in yellow, along with the Elise, S2000, Ferrari [insert any model name here], just to name a few.

What kind of money should I expect to get for the estimate for just the lights, hood, and fender replacement? The cool part is, the shop I'm going to is expensive, and linked to a Honda dealer, they use all OEM parts if they need to replace anything. That means we're already talking about 70 bucks for a corner light, and another 150 for a new headlight assembly, before the body work.
Now I know the insurance company won't want to give me as much as I think I should get for my car. A friend of mine had this happen on his, and he called them with a list of performance parts he had installed, and they gave him money for them all. How should I go about that? I have receipts for everything I bought new, should I try to get private ones as well?
 

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Now I know the insurance company won't want to give me as much as I think I should get for my car. A friend of mine had this happen on his, and he called them with a list of performance parts he had installed, and they gave him money for them all. How should I go about that? I have receipts for everything I bought new, should I try to get private ones as well?
I'd definitely give it a shot...it all depends on how much of a PITA the insurance company wants to be -- you might be fighting it just to get what you deserve for the bodywork alone. When my '87 Si was broken into at my old place of work in the Chicago suburbs and my entire car audio system was stolen, I was able to submit even PayPal reciepts to prove what I paid for my head unit (good thing, or I would have gotten a sub-$100 entry-level Pioneer CD player instead of the $300 unit that I ended up with). Get all your reciepts together and if you used PayPal to pay for any of your used parts, check out your PayPal history and you might be able to submit that to the insurance companies to prove what you paid for the parts. If you paid cash or something like that, you might have a harder time. What parts were damaged beyond bodywork-type stuff?
 

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The lights are destroyed, I put an extra headlight in before I drove home last night so I could see. The supporting part of the frame for the fender and headlight is messed up, I dont know if that counts as body work, and the frame rail there seems like the crumple zone may have started to give. I don't think it's terrible, if I weren't getting money for it I would still drive it, and I am going to drive it for a little while. I really just want a clean shell, and once I transfer everything over, I'll either scrap this one or just give it away. There is a lot of rust but I don't think it's unrepairable for someone who knows what they are doing or wants a free shell.
 

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I guess I wondering what parts you needed reciepts for, I thought you meant some aftermarket parts got damaged and you wanted them to pay for replacement. I don't really think that if they consider the car totalled, they will take all your performance parts into consideration when determining the value of the car. They probably just go by the Blue Book value on figuring the total value of the car, and figure that if you want all your engine parts, etc., you can just buy the car back and have them. Say (just making an exaggerated example) you have a $5,000 engine -- they sure aren't going to cut you a check for $7,000 and then let you buy the car back for a song and pull the engine. If the parts got trashed, you might get money out of them if you're lucky -- but if they didn't, I wouldn't bother trying.
 

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The reason I suggested that is that almost the same thing happened to my friend. He got in a somewhat minor accident in which his car (93 MX6) was totalled, but he had a lot of performance parts in it, undamaged. They wanted to total the car and give him 300 or 400 for it, he ended up getting 3 grand after talking to them and sending in receipts. Either way I don't care that much.
What would I get for a CRX? I know it's not worth this much, but my account online says the estimated value is $2700, that seems very high.
 

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What would I get for a CRX? I know it's not worth this much, but my account online says the estimated value is $2700, that seems very high.
If memory serves, I got something like $2400 for my old 89 Si...buying it back was only 250 or 300 bucks, so I was able to have a guy paint it who works at a bodyshop but paints out of his garage on the side (around $1000 for everything, but he took forever to get it done), and buy a bunch of parts (used fender, new sunroof panel from Honda, CF hood, WW bodykit, etc.) without paying much out of pocket at all.
 

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It's not an isolated phenomenon. People driving bigger vehicles have the tendency to forget that there are smaller vehicles on the road, and that they actually need to look behind their vehicle before backing up. I don't know about other states and provinces, but the rules here state that if you can't see behind your massive vehicle, you are supposed to get out of your vehicle and take a walk to the back of your vehicle to check that everything is clear before you back up. My gf had her SE crunched last year when some lady in a huge Mercedes SUV backed up and over the top of her hood. The lady had to nerve to call the insurance adjusters and tell them that it wasn't her fault that she backed up over my gf's car, because my gf's car was stopped in a loading zone (with her 4 way flashers on). They basically thanked her for her confession, and politely informed her that she was 100% at fault.
 

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Dan cook says it best:
"it doesnt matter it the other persons fault, they will still get out of there car and look at you like its your fault... Why did you stop at a red light and let me hit you doing 80? Why did you stop at a legal light and let me hit you. WHY?"

People are stupid and need to learn to watch for smaller cars. Just because you drive a big bad truck, doesnt mean you own the road.
 

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Now I'm dealing with the other guy's insurance, what a pain in the ass. It's more irritating because I didn't do anything wrong, and I have to make a billion phone calls and meet people at my inconvenience. Oh well... I guess I'll be getting paid anyway...

Big thanks again to Matt and jmart, hooking me up now when I really need it. An update on my TO trip: Jess got her visa, but a little late, so I'm heading out there friday morning, and coming back to Troy sunday afternoon. I'll be stopping in Rochester on the way out too to visit Scott. Anyway, it was great for these guys to hook me up with parts I need to do this trip.

I'm starting to budget and plan for the end of the summer, when I get back from Yale I'll have some time and money to do some nice stuff for my CRX. I'm currently looking for a clean shell, and by shell I mean, the frame, body and glass. I was going to buy a complete CRX from a friend of mine, but it will end up costing a lot more, money that I could put elsewhere in the car, and not have to go through the effort of selling off all the extra stuff I don't need.
I'll be swapping everything over from my current one to the new one. I'll also be making the bay a lot nicer, replacing the fuel lines with SS, covering the harness with split weave, stuff like that. I also want to build the motor a little better, since it was kind of thrown together in a hurry. I'm ordering Eagle I beams, crower stage 2 or 3 cam (haven't decided) and crower valve springs and retainers. I'm getting the bottom end balanced and the head ported for free from a friend of mine at a machine shop. Looking to put down around 150hp in the end. I'd like to work on ITBs, but I really don't know much about them, just think it sounds/looks cool, and should make more power. Plus, I've seen very few CRXs with ITBs (excluding carbed first gens!).
So keep your eyes open for a clean shell, I want an Si, Y49, Red, or Black, in that order. Not really interested in getting white or TG, but for the right price I could be pursuaded. When I'm done, whoever wants it can have my shell for a 6 pack/lunch and the promise that you will restore it. It's pretty rusted, but not beyond repair, just beyond my ability. I hate to see a CRX in a junkyard (unless it's got good parts ;) ) so I would rather give it to someone who will love it. Maybe we can even hook up some stock suspension, motor and seat in there so it could be driven home.
 
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