[mattminerDOTcom]

Hi all,

Alot of people have been asking about this hydro adapter, and Ive been through the ringer with it, so ill relay my tale to you all.

April 2006, got my new car, planning on tossing in my shiny fresh B18C1. Start looking around, everyone says hasport or nothing, so hey, ok. I break open the piggy bank (more like 3) order up the EFB2 kit plus linkage.

Ill preface this with saying, the actual mounts have been great! Everything else, not so much. I get it all in no major issues, Im pretty handy with a wrench. First thing I notice is damn, the clutch pedal force is extreme. Im only running an ACT HD plate and street disc, it shouldnt be like that (and wasnt at all that bad when it was in my teg). Some people suggested it was because I was using a cable, but my old cars with way nastier clutches were nowhere near this extreme. Everyone assures me this is normal, so I roll with it.

Life goes on, Im driving my car, readjusting my clutch cable all the time. Then I notice my shifter getting sloppy. I fire up the old laptop, head over to summit and order me up some poly stabilizer mounts. Then I navigate to majestic honda and order me a new roll pin. Couple days later everythign comes in, I put on my bright orange jumpsuit, securely lift the car, and install my new parts. Things feel nicer, but theres still a ton of play. I make a few calls, do some thinking. Then it hits me, UJoint!. I take the linkage out and man, the U joint is destroyed. thing was only a few months old! I hit up rywire, and then hasport, to see what to do.

I pushed pretty hard to get something crosshipped, but it jsut wasnt meant to be. We work out an amicable deal, where I overnighted my linkage to them, they put in a new delrin ujoint, and they overnighted back in good faith, based on my overnighting it to them. I felt pretty good about this service, even though my car was down for a few days. The new linkage has been fine for quite awhile now, so I have to give htem credit. I mentioned the hydro adapter, and got a few suggestions, but nothing helped.

Time keeps on ticking and Im getting real tired of replacing my clutch cable, I also notice my clutch pedal itself is taking a beating. My clutch cable completely broke on a return trip at easter, and I was pretty pissed off at this point. I keep looking for a solution, to the point where I actually bought a cable transmission to prepare for a swap. Then I talked to a local tranny builder who swore he could fix my hydro adapter. I took it off with the quickness, and sent it over to him. See, the problem was, the frontmost piece was riding against the middle piece harder and harder as you pushed in the pedal. His solution was simply to countersink a groove into the back of the adapter. And WOILA, the thing is dead nuts perfect now.

So I order up a fresh cable, clean up the adapter, retorque it on all perfect and im happy, for a few days....Im trying to dial in my clutch cable and it keeps getting all wonky on me. I completely understand it takes a few days for the cable to 'settle' but this was more than that. Im thinking maybe the cable i sjust wack or something, but the pedal sure does feel weird.

Flash to today, I go home at lunch to fire up the rex and drive it back to work. Pull out, clutch pedal feels weird, shift like 3 times, thrid shift foot goes to the floor. My goddamn clutch pedal broke off!

I push the car home, check it out and man the pedal assembly looks like its been through hell. So now I have to swap my pedal set too.

So, word to the wise, if you get the hydro adapter and have binding problems, get that **** fixed asap. Otherwise youll be in the hell I was and am in.

so, in short, hasport mounts ++, hasport other stuff --

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[downest]

I've seen this stuff firsthand on Matt's car... I agree I'm really not impressed. Also you didn't really mention the slop that's in the linkage now, when you were up here last weekend I was easily able to move the shifter left and right quite a bit while in gear. That might be normal with some OEM linkages, but for the price you dropped on that HASport piece, it shouldn't move a millimeter.

Can you post up pics?

 

[mattminerDOTcom]

im going to compile the pics that i have of the pieces before and after their pics. and fill in details where applicable, I jsut wanted to get something up and there.

Im pretty sure that, john willing, Ill be sending him a mattminerdotcom linkage to do his super linkage joint on.

btw john, if you are out there, im rockin my tshirt today *thumbsup*

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[signalpuke]

Yeah...I think this is gonna be an issue for us K guys too :evil:
I think I may end up going hydro if mine breaks. I don't have any issues with it now. Firm feel, not bad at all, but it has been brought up in the EF section of K20A.org
Time will tell.

 

[Its me DUB]

That sounds pretty sucky. Also sounds like you've done everything to try and fix on your side.

I've noticed there's a ton of slop in my shifter when in gear. What is the U joint you speak of? I need some ideas on what to look for under there because it's pretty bad.

Back on subject...good luck getting this worked out.

 

[jfrolang]

What you guys need to do is have John (Composimo) weld a zero-play joint into your linkage. Like this one:

 

[downest]

Ok I'm not gonna lie, that linkage is totally friggin sweet, but it's also expensive. HASport nearly has a monopoly on the swap stuff though, and for the money they should be making parts that are at least as good as OEM if not better.

I gotta learn to underwater weld...

 

[mattminerDOTcom]

What you guys need to do is have John (Composimo) weld a zero-play joint into your linkage. Like this one

Im pretty sure that, john willing, Ill be sending him a mattminerdotcom linkage to do his super linkage joint on.

8)

btw, this is also posted on HT so head over there to see what comes of it.

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[CRXBart]

Have you talked to Brian about the problem? He is always quick to fix problems, and would not sell anything unless he would run it himself. Could be a number of things, I would call him, and see what he says. The pedal braking is a common problem. Although I have never had it happen to me, my friend had it happen to his completely stock EF Sedan. He happens to work at Hasport now, BTW, purely coincidental. My pedal with my EFK1 mounts feels awesome with the ACT 2100 w/ street disk. IDK if my pedal will ever break but if it does, I will fab something better.

 

[jfrolang]

I knew you were going to say you already posted that idea. Fact is, I only skimmed the thread after reading the first post, and saw an opportunity to be a pic whore. After posting, I noticed what you wrote, and didn't feel like changing anything.

 

[Jonny_Black]

What you guys need to do is have John (Composimo) weld a zero-play joint into your linkage. Like this one:

I miss that..I still haven't got it back../sniff
you better appreciate that buddy!!! :wink:

 

[jfrolang]

And I do... It's not my fault that the joint wasn't shipped in time to modify my linkage. Besides, you were the one that offered to swap linkages, because it's easier to hook you back up being local and all. So you need to get with John and figure it out, but it's out of my hands.

 

[mattminerDOTcom]

Have you talked to Brian about the problem? He is always quick to fix problems, and would not sell anything unless he would run it himself. Could be a number of things, I would call him, and see what he says. The pedal braking is a common problem. .

We talked about it a few times, and was always told that it 'couldnt be' the hydro adapter causing my problem. I went through all the suggestions, and it ended up being the problem mentioned above. After I let him know what the problem was exactly, and how to fix it, he mentioned sending it out there, but since I already had to do all the figuring out, and determine how to fix it, I just went ahead and finished the job. I completely understand how it could be alot of stuff causing that problem, but I had already ruled out a large amount ov variables, since the entire motor and tranny came off my other perfectly running and functioning car. At this point, Im not relying on hasport to fix anything, Ill just save myself the trouble and do it myself. Like I said, Im not knocking the customer service, it was certainly passable, but the value on these parts jsut wasnt there IMO.

And yes, Ive seen the pedal breaking problem before, but not with a light duty clutch like the one I am running. I dont know what appened with that stock EF sedan, but that sounds weird. The ACT HD plate is not a monster, and Ive run the XT plate before in my cable equipped cars without snapping my clutch pedal clean off. I directly attribute the failure of the clutch pedal to the added stress of the malfunctioning hydro adapter.

DUB:
If theres play in your shifter, its either the shift stabilizer mounts (circle in teh front and rectangle mount on the back), the spring pin that holds the linkage to the tranny itself, or the U joint. the shift assembly is 2 parts, the stabilizer is the 'soldly' mounted part and the linkage goes from the shifter to the tranny. the Ujoint is the 2 way pivot up at the front right before the tranny. if it has play, time to get it replaced.

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[Its me DUB]

DUB:
If theres play in your shifter, its either the shift stabilizer mounts (circle in teh front and rectangle mount on the back), the spring pin that holds the linkage to the tranny itself, or the U joint. the shift assembly is 2 parts, the stabilizer is the 'soldly' mounted part and the linkage goes from the shifter to the tranny. the Ujoint is the 2 way pivot up at the front right before the tranny. if it has play, time to get it replaced.

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Cool...thanks man. I'll check that stuff out this weekend.

 

[george34]

Just curious where everyone got there shift linkage from. My brother bought his "hasport" shift linkage from Hmotors when he bought his swap. I said " hasport" because there was never any stamp or sticker on the linkage that said hasport. So I am kinda wondering if Hmotors is selling crappy linkage under the hasport name????

I will have to send this thread to my brother. He has had the same problem with his clutch. We have pulled the engine twice try to fix and still nothing.