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I really like this board because you can always speak up your feelings and you actually get listen to :)

Right now I'm kinda down. Here's a quick story of the latest happenings in my life :

I opened my Dyno shop last March, renting some space in a shop a guy I know owned. He was building motors, while I was dyno tuning. I had a quarter of the 1800sqft available which was enough. We had hella fun all through summer. He started July he decid his own race team using two EK's, one with a stock TypeR Spec-R engine and the other with a B20 block using ITR internals and some weirdo very very high compression pistons whihc was putting the compression ratio closer to 13:1 than 12.5:1. We Dynoed the car, it made 180WHP on THREE cylinders... anyway, kinda cool car.

But.. He began to run out of cash because of the race thing, and he got fed up of dealing with the Civic Kids that always want everything for free, etc, etc. Last July, he decided to close his shop and proposed me to transfer the rent of the actual shop he had to me, and pay me a rent for the space he was taking. Basically we spitted the shop 50% and the rent too.

By the meantime, he got himself a good job doing gas boiler/heater install and repair for a good company. On my end, I rented some space in the shop to a guy I met that does Nissan tuning. That way he could dyno profitable when i'm not using it for my customers. Basically, my friend was in the shop on saturdays and sometimes on Sundays for a couple of hours so he could fix his race car and do some maintenance on his daily drive.

My shop was open on Saturdays and I think this caused the problem. Since i'm open on Saturdays, my friend can't really count on be able to take his cars in and out of the shop without having to coordinate with me. He also got irritated by the fact hat my Nissan guy used his stand grinder a couple of time and his chop-saw once in a while. Down the line, I think he simply realized that he was not in HIS shop anymore. Instead of letting me knowing his concern / feelings, he accumulated all the little things that irritated him to the point where he decided to move out of the shop.

I want to make a point here. I really don't mind him moving out of the shop, in fact, I'm pretty happy because I'll have more space to use and a lot less junk laying around everywhere. The problem is that he decided ti move out to "make me angry". I felt this while I was there when he took all his belongings out. I asked him if he was pissed at me, and if so, for what reasons. He told me he wasn't pissed at me, but he didn't carry respect to me anymore because of all the little things that irritated him saying I did not respected him either even though he admitted I didn't do it on purpose.

So now I'm here, and I lost some kind of friendship I liked because of something I didn't know was happening. On top of that, this guy is very well known in my area and he can easily, if he wants, tell people that I screwed him up and make his point of view the right one to these people.

I'm kinda afraid that he would make prejudice to my business. I may be paranoid though.
 

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I personally think you just may be a little paranoid. If you have good business ethics that will get around more than one guy telling people bad things. If you do hear bad things just simply tell them to come by and see what its all about.

It sucks losing a friend but if hes doing it just to be pouty-then so be it. Thats just how I feel/think about the situation.

Good luck either way!
 

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For some people, the only coping mechanisms they have for dealing with the problems of daily life are anger and strife. If someone isn't going to communicate with you freely about their expectations and concerns, they aren't a very good business partner. Business is hard enough without having to deal with dysfunctional communication. Be professional, and treat him with the same courtesy as you would any other business partner or customer...don't get sucked into the petty drama.

Carry on. You'll do just fine.
 

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Synoptic said:
Thanks guys ;)

But how hard it is to keep a certain distance between two persons when they work everyday together.
Its quite easy but extremly akward. Just don't talk to them or show intrest when talking.
 

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Keep the course bro!

NEVER go into business with, or be in a close-quarters situation with a freind day-in-day-out... you will either lose your friendship, or your business, or BOTH. I know this from experience, and it sucks.

YOU'RE still in business... it obviously isn't a priority for him, so let him be and take his crap outta there, and you keep going with your deal.

As for him possibly going and talking crap, let him... you show your customers that you are the bigger man, and you can still tune the crud out of their cars, and do a great job at it. They know that your 'friend' said you were great when he was there, then all of a sudden he moves out and gets a job, and now you're not great? doesn'ty make much sense, does it. Prove him wrong. Besides, he hasn't said anything anyway yet.

I'd let him go gracefully, and maybe let things cool down for a couple of weeks, and then just go talk to him... go to a bar, hang out, have a beer, and talk like you used to when you were friends first.
 

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dude. people are [email protected] sometimes.

people can bottle stuff up to the point where they dont even want to try anymore. (i know i did it with one of my mates. got pissed off over and over and eventually i didnt even wanna hang out anymore and even when i finally told her all the **** that was bothering me, i cbfd actually letting her make it better) its stupid but it happens.

Keep doing your thing and dont worry too much bout what he says/does. I agree with ComposiMo. if your customers know you, i doubt theyd be swayed to the point they wouldnt come to you. the'd know **** went down but wouldnt care to much for as long as you're doing the right thing by them.

whether their friends or not when u go into business, people will always be people and in some instances is everyone for themselves.

chin up! :)
 

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I just want to precise that I did not went into business with a friend, but he became somewhat a friend after a while. Now I have a new "partner" and I need tricks and how-to's so if any **** happnes, the story wont repeat itself.
 

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Synoptic said:
I just want to precise that I did not went into business with a friend, but he became somewhat a friend after a while. Now I have a new "partner" and I need tricks and how-to's so if any [crud] happnes, the story wont repeat itself.
the hard work will have to come from you, preventing yourself from bonding much with your new business partner. I worked for the same guy for almost 7 years, and during that time left for college for a couple semesters, then came back to work for him. When I left, I thought I wouldn't be coming back, so it was kind of a close relationship in boss/employee standards. I was the only employee for most of the time. Him, his wife, and me. When I came back things went downhill fast, and he wanted everything done perfectly and wouldn't give me an inch. Needless to say I recently quit.

So in summary, keep things business with little activity outside the shop, and make sure you let the partner know that you don't want to be "buds" and put the investment in your company, not in the relationship with the employees/partners. Good luck man.
 
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