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The swap that I want:

The 2.2-litre i-CDTi diesel that come in the new euro Civic.
251lb ft of torque
138 PS
Honda claims 65.7 mpg on the highway. We all know that this would go futher in a much lighter CRX.

Those specs, coupled with the fact that it can run biodiesel, makes it very attractive wish engine.

Eff the stupid hybrid **** we get over here.
 

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Not a bad idea. I wonder if anyone has any input on the technical side-me asking and having no clue on if at all possible.
 

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Nice mod !! Diesel + TURBO !!! You could stack up A LOT of torque with a descent turbo on that engine.

the diesel swap will require all the fuel supply to be swapped too. From the gas tank (maybe not) to the fuel pump, to the fuel lines, etc..

I say it,s worth it, plus, you will be able to run on used cooking oil !!!

One sad thing, the Diesel VW will want to become friend with you... :) lol !
 

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coldtotouch said:
SETI20 said:
Diesel???

You'll burn in hell for that!
You do realise that diesel is a -WASTE PRODUCT- right?
Explain yourself.
Diesel is one of the left-over low grade waste products left over after refining the oil. Gas, kerosine and gasoline being the higher grade stuff.

Diesel was originally used in lorries and trucks because nobody wanted it, and it was cheap for long distances. Same with diesel trains. Those things will run on anything short of crude oil.

Because of it's low price, soma manufacturers found it a good idea to make cars that run on diesel. And if it weren't for the strange environmental loopholes in the law here in europe, diesel cars would not exist.
Diesel sucks as a fuel. It burns dirty and only after years of expensive research did we manage to get it about as clean as regular gas.

Natural gas would have been a way better alternative. But that's marketing for you.
 

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coldtotouch said:
SETI20 said:
Diesel???

You'll burn in hell for that!
You do realise that diesel is a -WASTE PRODUCT- right?
Explain yourself.
Diesel is one of the left-over low grade waste products left over after refining the oil. Gas, kerosine and gasoline being the higher grade stuff.

Diesel was originally used in lorries and trucks because nobody wanted it, and it was cheap for long distances. Same with diesel trains. Those things will run on anything short of crude oil.

Because of it's low price, soma manufacturers found it a good idea to make cars that run on diesel. And if it weren't for the strange environmental loopholes in the law here in europe, diesel cars would not exist.
Diesel sucks as a fuel. It burns dirty and only after years of expensive research did we manage to get it about as clean as regular gas.

Natural gas would have been a way better alternative. But that's marketing for you.
 

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I'm not arguing what diesel is, or is not.
From what I understand, the european markets have a higher standard for quality of the fuel. Its one of the reasons a lot of makes in the American market don't offer a diesel...they can't get it to pass emissions.

For the American public, 95% of the people picture either a big chugging truck or a tiny VW that clatters/stinks when you mention "diesel".

But biofuel is a good option as a future fuel technology. Natural gas is good too, but also has its limitations.

Check out Hondas diesel commercial: http://www.honda.co.uk/grrrgame/
click "watch the movie" at the bottom
 

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Yes, our standards are pretty high. Altho not as high as Japan or even California I believe.

Regarding diesel, the standards were raised -alot-. (like quadrupeled) That is most definately a good thing. However, with the higher gasoline standards...they're still on average cleaner than diesels. (with the odd extreme exception like the honda accord diesel)

This shows how much we can do when we really set our minds to it.

A funny example.
Honda tested it's Accord diesel engine in Londen UK. And it actually put out LESS parts per million than it took in. So it was actually cleaning the air while it was running!
 

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God I love Diesel trucks. It's just the sound. It'so sweet and makes me feel manly when I pull up next to a crx and my tires are as tall as their car :p

I'll save you the trouble.

BAN!!!!!!!
J00 have a small penis!!!
OMFG CRX FOR LIFE!!!!
TRAITOR!!!!
DIE IN A FIRE!!!!
 

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i started whistling the song after seeing that commercial movie about the honda diesel. true story. :lol:
 

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I4sillypwr said:
DIE IN A FIRE!!!!
I dunno why I laughed so damned hard at that, haha. What I don't get is how some diesel cars can be so clean (in terms of emissions), but I'll be behind a big Dodge Ram diesel or something and when the guy really steps on it, it just belches out HUGE plumes of black nasty smoke. Nothing looks like pure environmental disaster more than seeing a giant cloud of pitch black smoke trailing a truck as it accelerates down the highway.

One of those trucks was recently tailgating the hell out of me while I was behind slower traffic in the left lane on the interstate. As the traffic ahead of me cleared in my lane and I *just* started to get back up to speed, he tried to make a pass on the left with limited room before he ran into slower traffic. Of course the black smoke told me he was all over it. It wasn't like I sped up just to screw him over, but I was speeding up anyway as soon as I had the chance and maybe pushed it a tad more knowing this guy was trying his super-stunt move in a vehicle very ill-suited for such a tast...let's just say he looked very shocked as he slammed on the brakes, knowing he had vastly underestimated what he probably thought was a slow ricer or economy car, haha.
 

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ryan_long_01 said:
I4sillypwr said:
DIE IN A FIRE!!!!
I dunno why I laughed so damned hard at that, haha. What I don't get is how some diesel cars can be so clean (in terms of emissions), but I'll be behind a big Dodge Ram diesel or something and when the guy really steps on it, it just belches out HUGE plumes of black nasty smoke. Nothing looks like pure environmental disaster more than seeing a giant cloud of pitch black smoke trailing a truck as it accelerates down the highway.

One of those trucks was recently tailgating the hell out of me while I was behind slower traffic in the left lane on the interstate. As the traffic ahead of me cleared in my lane and I *just* started to get back up to speed, he tried to make a pass on the left with limited room before he ran into slower traffic. Of course the black smoke told me he was all over it. It wasn't like I sped up just to screw him over, but I was speeding up anyway as soon as I had the chance and maybe pushed it a tad more knowing this guy was trying his super-stunt move in a vehicle very ill-suited for such a tast...let's just say he looked very shocked as he slammed on the brakes, knowing he had vastly underestimated what he probably thought was a slow ricer or economy car, haha.
Wanna race? The ole work truck might accidently turn real quick off the line though so beware.

You got a rollcage and helmet right? Good insurance?

:p
 

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Anyone happen to watch the Twelve Hours of Sebring road race a while back, in which Audi's new R10 *DIESEL RACE CARS* basically walked away from the field? What I found most amazing and amusing was that the car's diesel engine was so quiet that, in the upper gears, the wind noise was drowning out the engine note, so that the drivers HAD to rely on their shift lights to tell them when to shift gears. Imagine that - a diesel that's QUIETER than the normal gasoline engines they used to run...

A couple other items of interest on that car:

The gearbox was changed from a 6-speed to a 5-speed, with much wider gear ratios. Why? Two reasons. (1) The diesel makes so much torque that almost any gear is the "right" gear for that part of the course, and (2) the torque is so plentiful that the transmission required thicker gears, just to keep the engine from stripping the teeth off them! Cramming 5 thick-cut gears into the gearbox didn't leave room for a sixth gear.

The entire exercise was meant primarily to show U.S. consumers that diesels aren't necessarily slow, loud, or dirty. If I remember right, that Audi used a couple of particulate traps, but no mufflers of any kind. The figured the turbos would dampen the exhaust racket, and apparently, they were right. And the numbers I remember were something like 515hp/585tq, or thereabouts.

All of which is my long-winded way of saying that "diesel" isn't necessarily a dirty word anymore...

Mike
 
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