[fireant]

So I use my rear speakers only...and I dont want to add any to the front or add on a subwoofer (my amp is only two channels, and I want to keep things simple and light for autox purposes).

Currently my system consists of a small 2-channel 120w amp from kicker with a direct connection from my portable mp3 player, and a $40 pair of Pioneer 6.5inch 2-way speakers in the back.

The pioneers sound great with extremely clear and crisp highs (sometimes harsh) but the mids and lows are somewhat lacking.

I'd like to know if I can expect to get better mids and lows from 6x9s, and if anyone can show a picture of exactly how 6x9s fit into the speaker holes on a 2g crx. I'd like to spend less than $150 on the speakers so recommendations in that price range are welcome.

 

[coldtotouch]

bump this for info!

 

[Baker]

I would say don't go with 6x9's. I have seen how they fit and they do not fit well. They do not sit flush and you will not get good bass response.

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=414259

 

[Prana25]

^^^^

I agree. There's a misconception about 6x9. They were invented by car companies to fit the largest speaker in the rear deck of a car. They actually have a lower quality than just going with 6-1/2" round.

As for mid-bass, you've come across the hardest part of car audio. The most common complaint is lack of mid-bass (around 150 - 800 hz).Unfortunately, to really get good mid-bass, it requires a top shelf speaker and good clean power behind it.

One thing about your post that I don't understand is why you're putting all the sound behind you? The soundstage should actually be in front. (when do you go to a concert and face away from the stage?)

 

[fireant]

it comes down to a lot of factors related to this being a tracked car and the amount of effort I'm willing to put into wiring, but like I said before, I dont have any problems with clarity or staging at all... the rear speakers in a crx are pointing almost straight at my head from a couple of feet away. The car is filled with sound.

Now if you say that my problems with mid-bass frequencies would be solved by moving the 6-1/2s from the rear to the doors, I'd consider it.

 

[Prana25]

Well, it certainly would improve it, but only by so much (maybe 40% increase). The door actually works as a 'box' for the speakers. I'm not sure what size are stock (my 87 is 4" up front), but I'm sure you can fabricate something to accomodate larger sizes. However, considering you said you wanted minimal effort, you may be suited to just get a small sealed 8" sub. It won't weigh you down much and it will certainly take the bass load off the mains.

 

[cagedrex]

the easyest thing to do is go get some foam baskets from your local stereo store and mount the rear speakers in them, in the stock location, i've used these in the doors of mine for years and they work great and help with bass responce ,don't bother with 6x9's in the rear they don't fit and still won't sound any better.another option is to get a set of 5.25 mid bass and mount them in the door in the same foam baskets

 

[fireant]

that's interesting, I've never heard of these. Doing a google search didnt help any either.

Are they like small bowl-like enclosures for the speakers?

EDIT: I think I found them... speaker baffles.

 

[mattminerDOTcom]

yeah, usually the comapny that makes them is XTC. make sure when you use them to poke som eholes in them though, if you completely seal them, your bass response goes to 0. they are designed to weatherproof your speaker.

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[hcrx333]

I would go with some boston acoustics or rockfords.

 

[fireant]

I've found a few 8" three-way speakers out there, anyone heard of these?

 

[fireant]

never mind, they are 6lbs each... I think I'll stick with what I have for now, and consider a removeable "basslink" thing sometime later.

 

[ZeniceguyCRX]

In the back of my rex I have 2 4way 250watt panasonic 6x9's
good mid bass and highs

 

[Its me DUB]

The guy I sold my past CRX too, just put in a bazooka bass tube. Although at first I didn't think anything about them, after hearing it, finding out how much it cost, and saw how accessible it is, I am very interested in getting one.
He got his from Wal-Mart and it comes with an integrated amp...for around $100. The best part is that where the wires plug in, it's just a clip that makes it easy to remove for track days. It added some good mid/low bass and I thought it sounded really good. It wasn't too heavy or big like other boxes I've seen either. Just a thought...

 

[Prana25]

Actually, if you're looking for just a bit of low end fill, those work quite well.

 

[steve3p0]

The guy I sold my past CRX too, just put in a bazooka bass tube. Although at first I didn't think anything about them, after hearing it, finding out how much it cost, and saw how accessible it is, I am very interested in getting one.
He got his from Wal-Mart and it comes with an integrated amp...for around $100. The best part is that where the wires plug in, it's just a clip that makes it easy to remove for track days. It added some good mid/low bass and I thought it sounded really good. It wasn't too heavy or big like other boxes I've seen either. Just a thought...

Just wondering, where did he place the bazooka bass tube in his car?

 

[fireant]

Hmm, I just might look into the bazooka's. Honestly I'm pretty easy to please so it should work for me, and its VERY important that I can remove it for track days. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Its me DUB]

Honestly, it sounded great...especially for the price and ease of use. He had it placed in the rear cargo area and just folded down the front privacy door. That way with the top cargo cover still on it worked as an insulator for the acoustics and sent them up front.

 

[Prana25]

Make sure you face the speaker towards the rear of the car. The sound will reverberate off the back, making it seem louder. An old friend of mind had a CRX that I installed a tube in. I placed it to the driver's side and just secured a couple of hooks on one side, with 2 latches on the other. It was a snap to put in and take out.

 

[Its me DUB]

I placed it to the driver's side and just secured a couple of hooks on one side, with 2 latches on the other. It was a snap to put in and take out.

That's a good idea.