Sunroof slides, but doesnt close shut !! (pic)

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Robb

Discussion Starter · Oct 9, 2006

1990 Crx Si

When I slide it back it works, slide it forward no problem, but when I try shutting
it, the sunroof doesnt shut ! (stays in tilt position)
The sunroof used to work, but now it doesnt.
The switch is 2 months old !

what can it be ???

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FooFighter

· #2 · Oct 9, 2006

This happened to my sunroof. I just don't use it anymore because I am too lazy to fix it.

Open it up all the way and there is like a black plastic rod. Mine was getting caught on a piece of metal. So just push it towards the front of the car while is being closed and it should not catch. I don't know how to fix this so I guess I am not much help.

Or maybe there is something else wrong... Just that this same thing happened to me.

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Ragnaarok

· #3 · Oct 9, 2006

When I bought my rex the sunroof was doing much the same thing as yours. It would go all the way forward, and even go down from the tilt position, but NOT all the way, so there was much wind noise and it looked funny from the outside. This is what I did to fix it...

My advice is to remove the sunroof panel and get a better look at what the moving tracks are doing. Pop the two bolts out from the front of the sunroof. Also I believe there are two plastic pieces that are screwed onto the back in line with the track. Then slide the panel back and up to remove.

Operate the sunroof switch and see if the tracks are out of time a little bit. That is what happens to mine sometimes. I just hold one of the tracks back with a large screwdriver while the opposite one moves. You don't want to try and stop it completely, just slow it down. Do this back and forth, periodically operating the tracks all the way closed, and see if the arms that tilt the sunroof up go all the way down.

Usually one track will go all the way forward and the opposite side "wing" (that tilts the sunroof) goes all the way down. The opposite TRACK is just shy of moving all the way forward, so the corresponding wing (that would be on the opposite side) stays up. The pass. side track is tied to the drivers side wing, and vice versa. You need to get both tracks all the way forward so both wings go down.

I use the trusty big flatblade screwdriver again to push forward on the track that is not all the way forward and "persuade" it to move farther and drop the opposite wing down. It helps to have a friend, one on switch duty, the other with the screwdriver. Monkey with it and curse at it enough and it should close. My sunroof completely gets out of time if I open it past about 60%, so I have done this a few times with the same good (closed roof) results.

Good luck! :wink:

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crxsquared

· #4 · Oct 11, 2006

A common cause of sunroof panels not dropping down into the hole is that the screws that hold the cam mechanism to the main support pan become loose, letting the mechanism go up instead of the panel being pulled down. Remove the panel and check everything, especially the L-shaped track stops that bolt to both ends of the track attached to the panel. I'll wager that if it's not loose screws, it's cracked L-stops.

Note that this is about the 3rd time I've posted this advice. We have a SEARCH function, y'know.....

BTW, the switch only tells the sunroof motor to move forward or backwards. It has no control over the angle of the sunroof panel- the cam mechanism mounted to the support pan does its thing when the panel gets in position and the motor continues to pull or push.

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Robb

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 11, 2006

crxsquared said:
A common cause of sunroof panels not dropping down into the hole is that the screws that hold the cam mechanism to the main support pan become loose, letting the mechanism go up instead of the panel being pulled down. Remove the panel and check everything, especially the L-shaped track stops that bolt to both ends of the track attached to the panel. I'll wager that if it's not loose screws, it's cracked L-stops.

Note that this is about the 3rd time I've posted this advice. We have a SEARCH function, y'know.....

BTW, the switch only tells the sunroof motor to move forward or backwards. It has no control over the angle of the sunroof panel- the cam mechanism mounted to the support pan does its thing when the panel gets in position and the motor continues to pull or push.

Umm, if that peice was broken, should the roof just fall down into closed position ?

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Ragnaarok

· #6 · Oct 11, 2006

crxsquared said:
...it's cracked L-stops.

my sunroof lid's "L-stops" at the back of the lid track are removed (makes it easier to remove the lid) , and my sunroof closes every time.

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Robb

Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 12, 2006

looks like this is the problem Im having

See the off-gold color part at the bottom-right of the track and compare it to the same part at the top-right of the track and you will note that the top part is disconnected

The bottom part:

The top part:

And the missing screw

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SETI20

· #8 · Oct 12, 2006

Good find. I would have wagered it was the track stops.

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Baker

· #9 · Oct 12, 2006

At least it is an easy and inexpensive fix.

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glagola1

· #10 · Nov 6, 2006

Hey guys, my roof wasn't dropping either so I took it apart and found those white plastic arms that actuate the lifters were both broken. I wish they were just missing a screw. Does anybody have any advise as to what I should do short of glueing those pieces back together with some evil epoxy?

Matt

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glagola1

· #11 · Nov 7, 2006

Well, I meticulously cleaned the cams and epoxied them together with Loctite Plastic Epoxy. I also have lubricated and cleaned all the tracks and the lifter mechanisms. I'll report on how long the arms last before they break again

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glagola1

· #12 · Nov 8, 2006

Me again. Those bitches broke while reinstalling them... but the good news is that Honda still makes the cable assembly for this old bitty! Can you believe it. I love new parts.

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jfrolang

· #13 · Nov 8, 2006

glagola1 said:
...but the good news is that Honda still makes the cable assembly for this old bitty! Can you believe it. I love new parts.

Still in stock is more like it. :wink: New parts are always awesome of course.

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Ragnaarok

· #14 · Nov 9, 2006

they still have the cable, great news. I'll probably need it in the spring when I fix mine, it only opens part way. i'd rather go new parts for an assembly like the sunroof that is not the easiest to get into.

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