slotted or blanks? i've gotten a buddy who races tells me he swears by blanks... and would never do anything to harm the integrity of the disc. (ie. slots or cross drilled.) I can see how one wouldn't cross drill, but i think grooved slots are fine!SETI20 said:The bigger discs mean that they have to turn more per cycle...giving them more time to cool, and a larger surface area to transfer pad material to.
LOL! yes, you save about as much weight as you would switching to titanium lug nuts...SETI20 said:Yes, drilled rotors crack. But in the defense of the manufacturer, you're supposed to replace them more often anyway.
Holes in the discs are also there for weight purposes. I got that off some porsche perfornance page. I'm not sure how much of an advantage it gives the relatively small honda rotors.
Agreed! slotted rotors look very clean... much more practical imho...downest said:Plus, IMO, slotted rotors look great, not flashy like Porche cross-drilled dinner plates, but subtle like a sporty Honda should look.
Thats not a fair comaprison... their brakes work entirely different than a street cars brakes, or even any race car that uses metallic components for their brakes.downest said:Look at F1 cars, they don't use cross-drilled brakes, and if they don't, chances are street cars don't either.
Heh, thanks i'm fine for the momentComposiMo said:cold: need a jacket?
You're so right! i've seen it far too many times! Mind you, i'm the kid who reads and then swears against the product due to lack of knowledge/experience/money to try/fail/try/succeed....ComposiMo said:Ah, welcome to the wonderful world of internet bandwagons... see, what happens, is a company will put out an amazing product, and it'll work -great-... then there will be this "one guy", who will come along, and do something retarded, like maybe diassemble the entire caliper before he installs it because he is curious, but maybe he doesn't know that there is a procedure to putting them back together, and maybe he should have just left it alone in the first place. Then he installs it on his car after hacking it back together, and likely tearing an o-ring, and it leaks... imagine that. Then, he goes online, and blasts Wilwood (a company who has been making braking systems for longer than that kid has been alive by the way), and then EVERYBODY thinks that Wilwood is crap cause they red it on da inturnet. The problem, is none of those kids know any better either, nor will they take the time to look into Wilwood as a company to see what the real story is... they just take that one kids word for it.
Heh thats funny, i have a buddy who likes the OBX LSD for the D-Series... Infact, i was soon going to purchase that unit for a JDM D15B swap i was soon undertaking...ComposiMo said:That scenario happens with countless products out there. Practically the ONLY one that IS true for the most part, is OBX... they suck, stay away... faaaaaar away :lol:
I read it from Seti around the beginning of this post...ComposiMo said:Anyway, i don't know where you read that Wilwoods leak
Thats what i like to hear... they were my weapon of choice until i read they leaked and had dust boot issues...ComposiMo said:but i can assure you they don't leak without help, and if they did, Wilwood would stand behind thier product and replace it with a new one. They are a good company like that![]()
Is Tyson the other? I haven't personally talken to Kam (Driven), but I make a point of reading every tech thing he posts, he's very serious about the car, and actually had experience, and tested stuff, unlike 90% of the posters on HT.I've talked to 2 guys who are very active with road racing/autoX and very knowledgeable.
Actually, this is the reason motorcycles have holes in the discs, it has to do with rotational inertia. I would imagine you aren't losing braking power because there is more than enough area already. I went through every page on stop tech last night and read them, again, I recommend it to anyone (thanks Bas). After you read all the stuff, go to the products section, they make cross drilled rotors, so there must be an advantage.SETI20 wrote:
Yes, drilled rotors crack. But in the defense of the manufacturer, you're supposed to replace them more often anyway.
Holes in the discs are also there for weight purposes. I got that off some porsche perfornance page. I'm not sure how much of an advantage it gives the relatively small honda rotors.
LOL! yes, you save about as much weight as you would switching to titanium lug nuts...
Sorry i wasn't trying to be serious... but still, i don't think anyone could justify to me that weight reduction is a reason to switch to crossdrilled...downest said:Actually, this is the reason motorcycles have holes in the discs, it has to do with rotational inertia. I would imagine you aren't losing braking power because there is more than enough area already. I went through every page on stop tech last night and read them, again, I recommend it to anyone (thanks Bas). After you read all the stuff, go to the products section, they make cross drilled rotors, so there must be an advantage.
And what's wrong with racing lugnuts?!? I'm saving almost a pound with mine!
Oh i wasn't joking... i think lighter lugnuts are more practical than holes in your brakes... at the end of the day, people want all the edge they can get...downest said:I was kind of joking about the lugnuts. I have some but I only bought them for security.
I don't know if either one of those guys were for or against Wilwoods. I was just saying that thy have very informative posts. And I think they are advocates of just keeping your stock brakes, saying the Si brakes are good enough for the job. I remember Driven did have Wilwoods on his CRX at one point, though I don't remember what happened to them.ComposiMo said:And here is an even bigger problem that happens... people with experience posting their opinions of a product... hehe.
Well i know of Driven and Tyson... i've seen some of their posts and what-not... neat guys.
But i'll take their words with a grain of salt as well, because i have a different experience with Wilwood products. Maybe they were too quick to bash? what about proper assembly of the items?
And then you can always fall back on the "well no one, even big companies are perfect" argument :lol:
So anyway, they can be on the anti-Wilwood bandwagon, and i'll be on the pro-wilwood bandwagon.
I'm quite positive that if all their crap leaked, then they likely wouldn't have been a braking components company for this long, and some very large racing teams wouldn't be using their braking systems... ya think? :wink: