[SETI20]

CURRENT FLIGHT REGULATIONS

Just look at that for a second.
This is going waaaaaaay too far IMO. This is such an enormous burden on traveling passengers compared to the idiotic small benefits that I cannot fathom how they justify these new regulation.

I assume everyone saw the news where they apprehended these terrorists BEFORE the new rules were in effect. Why put them in place afterwards? Do they think these terrorists are THAT stupid? They're just going to wait a couple of months until everyonehas forgotten all about this, and try again.

This probably means I'm not going to the US this year. I'm not willing to live with these limitations for 20 or so hours. For starters, I wear contacts. Ever tried staying up for over a day without eyedrops? Can't bring my music, my camera (real important to me) laptop...anything with batteries basically.

In the end, it's just a couple of hundred people holding their passport rolled up in a sardine can staring out the window.

Yah...really looking forward to that.

...A big drama, realises Lucy from Londen. No matter what mommy says, Winnie the Pooh must go in the cargo hold. Along with all the other carry-on baggage. The airline staff is unrelenting.

Even a 4-year old's teddybear is a potential bomb threat in Londen. Lucy is inconsolable.

 

[jfrolang]

I agree with you completely, and this is exactly why I will continue to boycott flights. I haven't flown in 6 years, and I never will again if I can help it. I guess there's little other choice for crossing the oceans though, cruise ships take too long.

 

[xJamesX]

I didn't read the article but I am sitting in the airport right now. I'm assuming that it has to do with the security. I wasn't allowed to bring hair gel and my face cream on the plane. What a joke. I'mm alittle frustrated right now. On another note there were containers full of toothpast, gel shampoo etc because of this. I wonder what they are going ot do with all that stuff. Give it out? Also I just got a new laptop and it is freakin awesome. Just had to share.

-James-

 

[FooFighter]

Well according to that link you can't bring the laptop on the plane...
But I guess these rules are only for UK airlines...

 

[xJamesX]

I believe those rules are for all international flights into the US.

-James-

 

[Dren]

I agree with you completely, and this is exactly why I will continue to boycott flights. I haven't flown in 6 years, and I never will again if I can help it. I guess there's little other choice for crossing the oceans though, cruise ships take too long.

It's the government that forces the air lines to conform to regulations. The TSA is a big mess. It is the government who has bailed out past airlines. It isn't the fault of the airlines for the most part.

 

[dohcya]

You can partially thank tsa for not waking up this morning or the next and reading in the newspaper that 10 planes blew up over the atlantic... or worse, inland.

TSA is evil, so is the government.... don't take my freedom away. wah?

 

[ryan_long_01]

You can partially thank tsa for not waking up this morning or the next and reading in the newspaper that 10 planes blew up over the atlantic... or worse, inland.

TSA is evil, so is the government.... don't take my freedom away. wah?

So the threat has been stopped, great...and NOW, afterwards, the regulations are in place. Makes sense. Imagine what would happen if I was allowed to take a bottle of water and an iPod onto a plane. Jesus...if terrorists want to do something, they're probably going to figure out a way to do it, and it's NOT going to be what is expected or when it's expected. Stopping everyone from carrying anything at all onto a plane will just annoy the hell out of them, not stop anything. I mean, some regulations make sense...but when it came to banning fingernail clippers, I thought it went too far. Not being able to carry ANYTHING on, not being able to listen to music on a long-ass flight, it's just absurd. They have to realize that there comes a point where people will be so uncomfortable that they won't want to fly...with airlines already hurting, they can't keep this crap up -- so what's the point? I might have a flight from Indiana to California coming up soon...I can't wait to sit quietly and listen to the annoying kids on the flight scream.

 

[dohcya]

Not was I was really getting at, but I agree with you that you can't eliminate the threat. It's impossible to do that. However, my argument was tsa helped foil a would be terrorist attack. I'm thankful it was foiled.

 

[SETI20]

I think it was mostly interpol and MI-5 we can thank for that.

 

[jfrolang]

I agree with you completely, and this is exactly why I will continue to boycott flights. I haven't flown in 6 years, and I never will again if I can help it. I guess there's little other choice for crossing the oceans though, cruise ships take too long.

It's the government that forces the air lines to conform to regulations. The TSA is a big mess. It is the government who has bailed out past airlines. It isn't the fault of the airlines for the most part.

It's irrelevant to me who's responsible for the regulations. There is no other form of public transportation on earth that requires you to give up so many rights, and I'm just not willing to do so.

 

[ryan_long_01]

Not was I was really getting at, but I agree with you that you can't eliminate the threat. It's impossible to do that. However, my argument was tsa helped foil a would be terrorist attack. I'm thankful it was foiled.

British police foiled the attack...TSA takes your iPod and bottled water away to keep America safe.

 

[xJamesX]

Like I said before I flew today from cincinnati to Ny. The whole situation is just mind boggoling (sp) stupid. I mean you are not allowed to carry a water bottle, shampoo, lotion, hair gel etc. So many people had to throw away drinks and stuff before going through security. But then when you are waiting at the gates you can go to the stores and buy a drink or lotion or hair gel. I mean does that make sense. I know they want to prevent liquid explosives from getting through security but you can prove that a coke or a water isn't an explosive just by drinking it infront of the security or rubbing th elotion on your skin or putting th egel in your hair. who in there right mind would drink a liquid explosive. Does this make sence. The more I think about it the more my head hurts trying to understand the stupidity of this situation. Only international flights prohibit th euse of any carryon luggage. Any flight within the US you can bring a laptop or an ipod.

-James-

 

[ComposiMo]

Also, this only applies to carry-ons, you can keep all that lotion and hair care stuff in your checked luggage. Its not like you need to wash and style your hair up in the clouds

I've never carried anything like that in a carry-on anyway... the drink thing bothers me a bit, but who cares, just hold off on your drink purcdhase until you're in the terminal... easy 8)

 

[xJamesX]

Yeah it doesn't matter if you check your bags but if your like me and only need some cloths for the weekend and the bag is just not worth checking and fits easily in the overhead then you need to pack everything in that one bag. Or buisnessmen who travel for the weekend and only need a carry bag for all their stuff. I give it a couple weeks and it will pass. I hope

-James-

 

[SETI20]

Or dutch people flying to houston or seatlle that will take 20+ hours...
A drink, or cleaning your contacts would be nice. That, and the beforementioned crying kids.

...did I ever mention I -HATE- kids?

This is just retarded in every way. The measures are obviously not needed. They already caught the guys. It doesn't give us a "feeling of security". Well...because it's bull**** basically.

And if I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, watch the chaos, laugh my ass off, and try again in 4 months.

June last year I flew from Amsterdam to Boise. I almost got stripsearched twice. Had my luggage opened at every airport. (the special attention way) and interrogated at Houston. I had to take out all my equipment, camera, take out the batteries, same with laptop, take off my shoes...etc etc etc.

Same year, December, I fly to New York. Take out my laptop, show my passport...and that's it! I flew to Boise from there on, and they didn't even look at me. Let alone check my baggage.

If they want to blow up a plane...they'll wait until the stupidity stops and the memory fades.

 

[FooFighter]

That's a good idea but you still can't bring WHATEVER you want...
LOL cause then the terrorists would just bring ak's and stuff and just kill the air marshals.
But yea it's a good idea. If you did that plus just used the same system for screening as we did 6 years ago then I think all would be happy!

 

[xJamesX]

From what I heard one of the guys caught was an airline employee. When my dad worked for delta, just (retired a few months ago) he never went through security. He would just go to work and bring his bags with him if he was leaving after work. He would just hangout in the back offices or wherever and just take the back stairs up to the gate a little before the flight took off. He may have exagerated a bit but from what hes told me airport security is a big joke for employees.

-James-

 

[jfrolang]

I disagree Mark. It's transportation, and it's available to any member of the public. Public buses, trains and taxis are often run by private companies. Does that make them non-public?

You still have to pay a fee no matter your choice of transit. Planes require tickets, but so do trains. Nobody says trains aren't public transportation. The government's heavy involvement in air traffic certainly doesn't make it private either. The hefty price you mentioned is another reason I don't fly, but it's a price you pay for the convenience of the fastest way to get anywhere.

But seriously, this is just a petty detail, and I didn't intend to be arguing about it. The point is, the new regs are BS.

 

[FooFighter]

I think Mark is saying that it's more a private transport because of the cost. You don't dish out $500 to take a train...