[g4crx]

Do you guys drive on the right side or left side of the road? The Teg is LHD and the rex is RHD.

Can't wait to see the finished article, you have some great parts there!

 

[g4crx]

Ah just noticed you have a HKS exhaust, I'll be taking my HKS 4-2-1 manifold off soon for the turbo, that would have been a nice finish to your exhaust. But the Spoon 4-2-1 you have should do the trick :mrgreen:

 

[g4crx]

I guess if you're stuck on a destroyer there is no update on this? Really want to see this finished 8)

 

[g4crx]

I have a spare set of those door cards that came off an Si :wink:

Loving the build, keep posting up progress pics 8)

Mine is going a lot slower than I would like and now that winter is almost here I doubt much will get done. Hopefully mostly done by spring next year though!

 

[g4crx]

What are you doing to the AP1 cluster exactly?

Not sure if this is of any help to you....

http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpbb2/view ... p?t=109248

Keep up the progress b

If you're not a member of CRX-UK here is the info from there......

How to retro fit a Honda S2000 Console into a CRX.

Acknowledgement:
Mark Lamond for his pioneering work on the S2000 speedo & his resources.

Introduction:
The long awaited step by step comprehensive guide to install a Honda S2000 speedo into a CRX and get it to fully work.

Disclaimer:
I or anybody on CRX uk forum can NOT take responsibility of any damages (or harm) done directly or indirectly from this modification.

If you aren't confidently skilled then please use an experience mechanic to do so.

Your display console (speedo) provides visual information for you to drive the car safely, therefore it is VITAL to your own safety and others. Now you had been WARNED!

Skill level:
You will basic understanding of how circuits work.
You will need to be able to test wire by using a multi-meter.
You will need to be able to solder and join wires correctly.

It is no harder than wiring a car stereo (that is old school wiring style, no 'plug and play ISO' ****.)

Time it takes:
If you have everything ready and no problems occur, it will take the best part of a day. Probably, 4 whole hours (that is if you work non stop).

Background information:
90% of the required wires to get the S2000 speedo working will wire straight into the CRX's speedo loom. However, there are two main functions that will not. Mark Lamond (who is also on this forum) was one of the 1st pioneers to work this out, "in the world".

The problems are as follows.

1, The vehicle's speed display, Odometer.
2, The engine's temperature display.

There are now 'modules' on the market which can resolve these problems:

1, The vehicle speed display ------------ > HealTech, SpeedoHealer, Version 4
2, The engine temperature display. --------- > Modifry , S2000 ECT Driver.

Speedo healer

ECT Driver

Some other people can build a simple circuit to resolve these issues (and the information to do this can be found on this forum) but it was easier for me just buy these products and wire it in.

Things you will need:

• Electronic Vehicle speed sensor, VSS. (If you have an Y1 gear box, then won't require this item)
• Honda S2000 speedo. (I used the AP1 first generation speedo. Personally I think it better looking as the Rev counter spreads right throughout the cluster display).
• SpeedoHealer. (available on ebay)
• Modifry, S2000 ECT Driver. (Currently available from the states. http://www.modifry.com/products/ect/index.htm . The chap who sells this is very good and I had no problem with him.
• Mounting brackets (You need to fabricate these, I used metal straps from B&Q)
• 5 volt regulator (Available from me. I got some spares and wired up ready to use. Lol)
• Late spec CRX curved speedo cover. (The curvature of this cover fits nicely around the S2000 speedo).

Late spec right:

And electrical wiring equipments and tools, e.g. soldering iron, insulation heat shrink tube , wire strippers.....ect, ect, ect.

Notes:

a) When buying your S2000 speedo, MAKE SURE IT COMES WITH THE WIRING PLUGS. Without the wiring plugs (and preferably with decent lengths of wires too), it is worthless. Don't buy it! You will end up spending ages trying to fabricate pin connectors. Save time and make your life easier, just buy a speedo which comes with plugs aswell.

The same goes for the VSS.

b) If you are installing a VSS into a 16v CRX, then you will require a shorter VSS. The taller VSS will be hindered by the rear engine mount. (You won't have this problem with a Vt CRX.)
Example of a short VSS pictured below:

c) If you are buying a Modifry ECT, then you need to email Bob at modifry these data values (below). Just copy and paste it to him. These are calibration values which will provide the correct engine temperature values for the S2000 speedo display.


1. Ambient Temperature - 66F
2. Sensor voltage at ambient -2.865 volts
3. ECM voltage - 4.97 volts
4. Sensor resistance at ambient - 2.42 set at 200K omhs on the meter.
5. Sensor voltage when radiator fan first turns on - 0.515
6. Fan cycle voltages:
High - 0.565
Low - 0.505


Installing the VSS

Undo the mechanical VSS cable, there is a metal clip underneath the sleeve. Once removed, the cable just pulls out.

Undo the single 10mm bolt holding in the VSS to the gear box.

The mechanical VSS is a bitch to get out, best technique is to clamp it with a set of mole grip and rotate back and forth. It will eventually loosen and then you can apply some lift.

Do not try to pry it out, it will just crack the lip.

Install the new electronic VSS and tighten the holding bolt.

Run the three wires from the electronic VSS through the bulk head (along side the old cable driven route) to the speedo area.

You will need to label the wires accordingly.

Pin out for the electronic VSS plug, tab clip pointing upwards:

Left = Ground
Middle = Power (yellow wire, CRX 12 pin connector)
Right = Signal output. (speedohealer white wire)

Wire colours varies depending on what Honda vehicle the VSS came from.

Additional information can be found on Mark's web site.
http://www.marklamond.co.uk/products/s2 ... ss/vss.htm

Installing the SpeedoHealer

Cut of the plugs given for the speedoheal cable.

The end on the cable looks like this below:

Then wire in the following.

Red = power (Yellow wire, CRX's speedo 12 pin connector)
Black = Ground
White = Signal input from electronic VSS
Green = Signal output to the S2000 Speedo. (S2000 C connector blue wire)

Here you can see the speedohealer cable, green wire being connected to the S2000 VSS input wire, bluewhite.

I had stuck down the speedohealer onto the fuse cover for easy access.

You need to calibrate the speedohealer during the later stage.

Use the speedohealer user guide to help. Basically, hold down both buttons on the speedohealer, this will put it into programming mode.

Use the set button to select POSITIVE calibration value.

Set the calibration value at +3750.0 (SET button to select the digits, SEL button to increase the value).

Remember that there is an integer after the decimal point. The speedohealer will require you to enter this value (in our case, it is Zero.)

Installing the ECT & 5 Volt Regulator.

The ECT Driver requires a 5 volt power supply, (it was initially design to work on later Hondas which has 5 volts ECU outputs, however CRX's ECU hasn't). In result you need to install a 5 volt regulator.

You can buy a 5 volt regulator at Maplins (or PM me, I got a couple spares). It was advised to place a small heat sink onto the regulator to help dissipate the excess heat generated.

I stuck the regulator down under the cover.

5 volt regulator pin out (Looking at it front side).

Left pin = Power (yellow wire, CRX 12 pin connector)
Middle pin = Ground
Right pin = 5 volt ouput (Connect to ECT Yellow wire)

Next you need to run an 'engine temperature signal' feed from the ECU to the ECT module.

Look for the Small ECU plug, Red white wire. Tap into this wire and connect it to the ECT white wire.

Connect the following on the ECT module.

Black = Ground
Brown = Ground
Green = Engine temp signal output (connect to S2000 C connector Yellow Green)

If you had sent the calibration values to bob, then you won't need to calibrate it. Otherwise you need to read the step on how to calibrate from Modifry's website.

The ECT was stuck down the side of the dash as pictured.

Installing the S2000 Speedo, wiring it up.

You need to run a 'Constant live' feed to the S2000 speedo. This is important to the S2000 memory function operation.

From the cockpit fuse box. Test for a constant live, circled in red, pictured below.

Run a wire up towards the S2000 speedo.
Connect the constant live wire to the S2000 B connector white red wire, pictured below.

The rest is down hill now. :shock: :shock: :shock:

Using Mark Lamond S2000 AP1 pinout diagram; connect the rest of the wiring.

http://www.marklamond.co.uk/products/s2 ... luster.pdf

As this is a comprehensive guide, so I will show how to do the rest.

There were some speedo functions that took me a while to work out.

The CRX's speedo connectors :

Wire up the following:
CRX EF7, 12 Pin connector (left):

Function - CRX wire --------> S2000 Connector - colour wire. notes

Left turn indicator - Blue Green ---------> A plug - Green Red.

Ignition Live +12volt - Yellow ------------> B plug - Yellow - Also power for VSS, speedohealer, 5 volt regulator Modifry Driver

Fuel gauge input - Yellow White --------> C plug - Yellow Black

Oil warning light - Yellow Red ------> D plug - Yellow Red - There is yellow Red on the CRX's 8 pin connector.

Engine Check Light - Green Orange --------> D plug - Green Orange

Cockpit illumination trigger +12v - Red Black ------> B plug - Red Black.

Speedo light power supply - Red ------> B plug - Red

Haven't got the foggiest idea - Blue Red ------> cut and insulate.
(It may be a seat belt warning on other models.)

Alternator Warning Ignition feed - Black Yellow ------> D plug - Black Yellow

Battery light -ve - White Blue ----------> D plug - White Blue

Tacho input - Blue -----------> C plug - Blue

Engine Temp input - Yellow Green --------> Cut and insulate. - You will provide feed from the ECT Driver.

CRX EF7 8 Pin Connector:

Ground - Black -----------> B plug - Black - X2

Vehicle speed signal for the ECU - Yellow Red -------> Tap into the electronic VSS signal or (speedohealer white wire ), this needs to done other the ECU won't know the vehicle speed.

Blank

Hand Brake Warning Light - Green Red ----> D plug - Green Red.

JDM CAT warning light feed -Blue Yellow -------> Cut and insulate.

High Bean indicator +12V - Red Blue -----> A plug - Red Yellow ALSO ground A plug Red Blue. Took me a while to work this out.

Boot open warning indicator - Green Black ----> A plug - Blue Black

Right Turn Indicator - Green Yellow ------> A plug - Green Yellow

In addition, you may want to wire up the following as well:

EPS indicator light - A plug - Yellow Blue - Ground to switch off.
SRS indicator light - A plug - Pink - Ground to switch off.
ABS indicator light - D plug - Blue Red - Ground to switch off.
Door open indicator - A plug - Green and 'light Green Red'- ground = on. Link to alarm door open sensor wire.

If you look back up to the picture above, CRX's speedo plugs. There was a small 5 pin plug in the middle between the two.
I'm not sure if this particular plug exists onlyon my model, but this plug is for the Buzzer warning system, i.e. when you leave your head lights on whilst the ignition is turned off.

What I did was to remove the buzzer, which was a small circuit board held on the back of the CRX's speedo by a single screw. The buzzer was plugged back in and tucked behind the S2000 speedo. It doesn't require any additional wiring. Pictured below, covered in red insulation tape.

Mounting Brackets
Here is a close up of the S2000 speedo's mounting brackets. It is simply metal straps bolted together.

You can work it out. :lol:

Finished Product.

Not sure about a VT, but with a JDM Si gear box, you should be doing 39mph at 3,000 rpm (Thanks to PWONES for helping me out). This picture was taken before tweeking.

Just need to make a brezel to fill in the gap between the speedo and the cover.

Further Information, FYI
I'd ran my CRX dry of petrol, till the point where the engine spluttered and stalled.

I'd next placed in 5 liters of Shells finest (V power) petrol and waited for it to settle.

The S2000's fuel gauge then increased by two bars. So that will be a reference point to when you next need to take a trip to the petrol station.

There you go & Good Luck.

 

[g4crx]

With regards to the ASR stuff, maybe this would have helped (from Hadtstec)....

Just a word of warning to those who want to retro fit the ARB.
I put the brace together and put it onto the car, but I was then unable to fit the ARB as the screw holes for the ARB mounts didn't line.
There is also a screw that cannot be reached as shown in the picture below.

If you are fitting the Roll bar afterwards, you will need to take the brace off and might find that the holes you drilled previously aren't quiet right anymore.
Non the less, this is still an awesome looking piece of kit and I hope it performs as well as it looks.

Today I spent a few hours outside fitting my new ASR rear Chassis Brace with 24mm Anti Roll Bar and my new Lower Control Arms:

Before:

After:

He helped me install mine and it was fairly straight forward. I also have the ITR/EF8 F7 LCA, and yup had to get longer mounting bolts.

 

[g4crx]

Those TSX headlights look like they could work really well on a CRX lol

 

[g4crx]

I knew what was inside those boxes :bounce: I've had 2 sets now. They are all but gone I think since Honda discontinued them, the last few sets floating about have all disappeared - the folding mirror type anyway.

Are those Spoon mirror covers or are they the Access ones?

 

[g4crx]

Looking "Pimp" :lol: b

 

[g4crx]

More details on the plug wires please?

 

[g4crx]

Doing it once, doing it right - love it! It's slow progress yes, but well worth the wait like all good things!

 

[g4crx]

This car is going to be so sick!! :jive:

+1

 

[g4crx]

Are you going for a wire tuck? I would be happy if I can get mine to a similar standard to this...

 

[g4crx]

... I think I need the EF7 T-bar.

Yes, that is the correct one you need to have it line up, have a search In Japan whilst you're there, parts are becoming scarce, don't even come up on CRX-UK that often anymore.

Car looks mighty 8) though, can't wait to see it with fresh paint.

Get some Honda wind deflectors if you can find them out there, make sure to get the foldy mirror type if you have the folding mirrors as they are different.

If you happen to find a mint climate control unit from either an EF9 civic or EF7/8 CRX give me a shout. :mrgreen:

 

[g4crx]

Doh! Just noticed you have spoon mirrors :lol:

 

[g4crx]

Beautiful pics and a pimpin' CRX, but how could you take the hood off when it was raining?

 

[g4crx]

Loving the S15! 8)

 

[g4crx]

That car just looks 8)

 

[g4crx]

Damn bad luck on the hood flipping, we all learn the hard way

I noticed you're running the 310 Tuner hinges...

How come you're not running the gas struts with them? I've got this setup but the gas struts seem to mess up the shut lines when I put them on, without the struts the shut line is perfect.